Billing boats Dragon (Dragen) - RC Groups (2025)

Oct 29, 2004, 09:41 AM

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ShaverR6

ShaverR6

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Hello, I am new to sailing but not new to R/C. I have been looking around for sailboats and pretty much all of them have been made of ABS and all look the same. I am really looking for a wooden hulled sailboat that looks so good that it could be put on display when not in the water. I came accross the Billing boats Dragon and it seems perfect, except for one thing. The Dragon is supposed to be a display model only, but i have heard that it can be converted to R/C. I was wondering, what type of modifications would be needed to acheive this? One thing that i noticed was that the keel was rather short and doesnt seem to have any ballast. Would this make the boat unstable? I would apprecieate any info that could be provided. Thanks!
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Oct 29, 2004, 07:37 PM

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Chris P

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Had this kit quite a while ago(I built it probably 20 yrs ago from a 30? yr old kit, so take this info with quite a few grains of salt). The kit came with a solid lead keel. As I remember mine sat a little below the designed waterline with the rc set in it and would dip the rail easily but wouldn't heel over much more. I don't recall exactly how I set up the RC. I think I just had the main on a long arm servo in front of the mast. Also I fiberglassed and painted the hull as I did a poor job on the planking. It couldn't have been too hard as it was my first sailboat and I was fairly young and dumb. It's a beautiful boat and was fun to sail.
By the way, welcome to the forum, I'm new myself.
Chris

Last edited by Chris P; Oct 29, 2004 at 07:50 PM.

Oct 30, 2004, 12:51 AM

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ShaverR6

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Thank you very much Chris. I am looking forward to tackling this project this winter, it will be a nice break from building airplanes all the time!
Pat

Oct 30, 2004, 05:40 PM

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Chris P

Chris P

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Good luck and let us know how it turns out. I would like do do that one again sometime.

Mar 18, 2005, 02:30 AM

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MILLERTIME

MILLERTIME

Taking care of the pond.

Billing boats Dragon (Dragen) - RC Groups (5) Hi Shaver,
How did the conversion go? I have just started my Dragon and I want to make it RC. Did you glass your hull?
Thanks
Don

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Mar 18, 2005, 01:19 PM

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pompebled

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Hi Shaver,

As stated above the Dragen was designed as a display model, making it RC requires a lightweight hull, or a scaled up one, to get the extra bouyancy for the RC components.

@Don: If you haven't started planking yet, take out the Dremel and reduce the amount of wood in the frame by at least 50% (more is even better), the hull will be stable enough if you add a thin (outside) layer of glasscloth and epoxy resin.
You'll need to build as light as possible, as it's a relative small boat.

Regards, Jan.

Mar 21, 2005, 01:43 AM

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MILLERTIME

MILLERTIME

Taking care of the pond.

Jan,
Thanks for the advice; I will use most of it. I am not looking for speed, I have 3 other sailboats. I have a Pro Boat Sunrise 24” The Dragon is bigger. I think it looks to good to just be setting on a shelf.
Thanks
Don

Mar 26, 2005, 12:43 AM

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MILLERTIME

MILLERTIME

Taking care of the pond.

Started the planking, slow work to get it right.

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Apr 01, 2005, 12:11 PM

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MILLERTIME

MILLERTIME

Taking care of the pond.

More planking.

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Apr 01, 2005, 06:25 PM

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ShaverR6

ShaverR6

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Wow guys, they look great.
I'm sad to say that i never got around to build the boat. I have been to busy with work and my airplane models. I still want to build this boat in the future though, especially after seeing your boats! Keep up the good work....and keep posting pictures. Billing boats Dragon (Dragen) - RC Groups (15)

Pat

Apr 06, 2005, 01:22 AM

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MILLERTIME

MILLERTIME

Taking care of the pond.

Planking is done.

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Apr 06, 2005, 11:11 AM

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ShaverR6

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MPO11, looks great man!
Is there any weight to the keel? (lead) How stable is this boat going to be with such a shallow keel?

Pat

Apr 06, 2005, 10:36 PM

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MILLERTIME

MILLERTIME

Taking care of the pond.

Thanks Pat,
There is a brass keel that attaches to the wood keel; I will make it as heavy as needed to get the water line right. I’m not looking for speed I have other boats for speed.
I think it looks to good to be left sitting on a shelf.

Don

May 26, 2005, 04:42 PM

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MILLERTIME

MILLERTIME

Taking care of the pond.

New skipper Blue, checking out the mast.

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May 30, 2005, 08:28 AM

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ShaverR6

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Looking Good Don, any words on your progress?

Pat

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